davestevely ([info]davestevely) wrote,
2006-02-13 00:51:00
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Let's talk coincidence vs. divine intervention

Almost a year ago I started a Best Buy reward zone membership, so since then I try to make all my media purchase at Best Buy so I get cash back.
On Saturday I attempted to buy something there for my valentine(Laurice from school, I'm not straight, we're just valentines). They didn't have the particular something I wanted at the Oakland Mall location. Also, Hot Topic didn't have the T shirt that I needed to exchange for a smaller size, so I decided I would go to Macomb Mall/Best Buy on Sunday.
On Sunday I talked to Randy for a bit in the morning. He ended by saying that it would really mean a lot to him if I called him later.
I went and got the thing from Best Buy, then I was overcome with a somber mood and got to thinking that I should call Randy. I debated it a long time as I drove toward the freeway home. Then I broke down and called. I told him I didn't want to talk much, just wanted to say goodnight. As we spoke, I got on the freeway and tried to come to speed. However, something was wrong with my car and it wouldn't accelerate, so I was forced to take the next exit. I don't know what's wrong with it yet, but I was already talking to Randy, so I asked if I could bring it to his house for now.
So we got dinner, watched Desperate Housewives and he took me home. We're going to decide where to take my car and all that tomorrow I guess.
Please share your thoughts as to whether it was just a coincidently chain of events or something bigger. I already know what you'll say, Randy, but I bet that won't stop you from posting it anyway, hehe.

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[info]lucentnotion

February 13 2006, 06:44:28 UTC 6 years ago

I don't believe in "Divine" intervention.. but I also don't believe in "Coincidence." I believe that we author are own lives and that we ourselves setup the circumstances that lead us to the people we need to speak to or to the events that need to occur. It's a complicated belief that I have, but on more than one occasion I've needed something BIG to happen and somehow "stumbled" into circumstances that caused those events to occur.

Anonymous

February 13 2006, 15:23:53 UTC 6 years ago

listen to this young man. very very very wise observation!

[info]capt_oblivious

February 13 2006, 15:41:54 UTC 6 years ago

Have you ever read "The Celestine Prophecy"? It's a book that, although kinda immature in it's storyline and writing style, describes basically what you're saying. Interesting read!

[info]lucentnotion

February 13 2006, 17:12:38 UTC 6 years ago

yes actually I have. I enjoyed that book and it did have an effect on the evolution of my own beliefs. I had been reading it during a real low part in my life and it helped alot.

Of course I remember that there were some strange stories in it that were a little out there for me.. lol... but I agreed with the coincidence part and the relationship part (the part about two WHOLE lives interlapping rather than two half lives competing for power.) AND since it was given to me I gave it away when I finished with it.

[info]capt_oblivious

February 13 2006, 17:16:10 UTC 6 years ago

I have to admit that it affected me, too. I see lots of interactions now as opportunities life/fate/whatever gives me to learn/pass-on what's necessary. Though sometimes I only see that after the fact; especially if it's an annoying/vexing interaction :-).

[info]davestevely

February 14 2006, 02:37:39 UTC 6 years ago

It's not as intellectual as citing a book, but it reminds me of the movie "Signs" Maybe that's only because they kept repeating in the movie "there are no coincidences" But in the flick it was more a diving thing than people controlling their fate. I'll have to check the book out.

Anonymous

February 13 2006, 21:49:48 UTC 6 years ago

Hmmmm . . . .

I gather you are training to be a doctor? I don't think this type of magical thinking will get you anywhere in that endeavor. Better to stick to the hard facts.
Moreover, if you believe "things happen for a reason," it does not follow that the "reason" must be good. You also must accept it is equally possible that the reason may be malevolent, that each chance happening may be aimed at your annihilation, or at least intended to really, really inconvenience and annoy you. What a horrible way to view the completely random -- as essentially conspiring to trouble you.

[info]davestevely

February 14 2006, 02:40:48 UTC 6 years ago

Re: Hmmmm . . . .

Hey stranger,
It is true that magical thinking can be a dangerous thing, especially if you bring it up during a psychiatric evaluation. But then again, psychiatrists, and the general public, are pretty accustomed to dealing with religious beliefs, at least mainstream ones.
It's funny you mention the malevolence of predestination. I didn't realize until just this moment, but I guess I actually do hold a belief that things are going to turn out well for me. Maybe it's just a sense of optimism that makes me think no matter what, I'll be happy with what I get.
In any event, I have much to ponder.
Thank you all.

Anonymous

February 19 2006, 00:37:00 UTC 6 years ago

I think you are all crazy

I'm pretty sure we are all human here and our instinct is to put value into objects and events that we observe. To say that something is or is "more" than a coincidence is purely subjective term that has no solid basis in fact. Its a boat without a hull--its not the kind you want to sail in.

Regaurdless of that near nihilistic rant i've provided, it doesn't matter. The fact of the matter is that this situation played out like it did and now we are trying to look back on it and classify it. "Coincidence" and "Devine Intervention" are odd qualities to assign an event, because they are not founded in anything secure so why not give us a better classifications: Instead of a coincidence was it favorable? Instead of devine intervention was it something you secretly did or did not want?

I'm just ranting like this because i feel we (humans) commonly overlook the human aspect of events (THE aspect that is most real) for a cause thats otherworldly or greater than us. But that territory is unrechable and nothing more than a guess.

Ok this turned out a little differently than i had intended. Oh well.
--Ness

[info]davestevely

February 19 2006, 02:39:09 UTC 6 years ago

Re: I think you are all crazy

Valid points. I was happy about it at the time, but now I'm really not. (See tonight's post: My Night So Far)
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